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	<title>Comments on: Traveller IQ Challenge and Learning</title>
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		<title>By: barry</title>
		<link>http://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/2007/12/20/traveller-iq-challenge-and-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-4821</link>
		<dc:creator>barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got 114.  that&#039;s pretty good, considing that (a) I botched Africa; (b) Indonesia and the Carribean islands are large, and can give very large errors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got 114.  that&#8217;s pretty good, considing that (a) I botched Africa; (b) Indonesia and the Carribean islands are large, and can give very large errors.</p>
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		<title>By: Rana</title>
		<link>http://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/2007/12/20/traveller-iq-challenge-and-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-4745</link>
		<dc:creator>Rana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 06:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m finding it quite addictive too.

What it reveals is fascinating; who knew that I would do so well with Europe and the Middle East, but completely suck at Canada and Africa in general (though I&#039;m good at Egypt).

There&#039;s some other online geography quiz that works better as an educational tool (for one thing, the maps are larger, allowing for more precision); if I remember correctly, it combines things like location, shape of country, part of world, and so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m finding it quite addictive too.</p>
<p>What it reveals is fascinating; who knew that I would do so well with Europe and the Middle East, but completely suck at Canada and Africa in general (though I&#8217;m good at Egypt).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s some other online geography quiz that works better as an educational tool (for one thing, the maps are larger, allowing for more precision); if I remember correctly, it combines things like location, shape of country, part of world, and so on.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Burke</title>
		<link>http://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/2007/12/20/traveller-iq-challenge-and-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-4734</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>138 on the Original World Challenge (617, 458 pts.). This morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>138 on the Original World Challenge (617, 458 pts.). This morning.</p>
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		<title>By: lknobel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/2007/12/20/traveller-iq-challenge-and-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-4733</link>
		<dc:creator>lknobel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But you haven&#039;t told us what your Traveller IQ is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you haven&#8217;t told us what your Traveller IQ is.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Burke</title>
		<link>http://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/2007/12/20/traveller-iq-challenge-and-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-4731</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. 

One key thing about this from a game-design standpoint is &lt;em&gt;speed&lt;/em&gt;. The pace of the game itself is what allows it to be played over and over again in a very short time frame, which I think is key to what allows it to be a learning tool. The problem with so many &quot;serious&quot; or &quot;learning&quot; games designed by educators to educate is that they miss out on some of these kinds of subtle but essential elements of design, and so often make a leaden, didactic, very unfun sort of game. At which point you might as well call it a test or a lecture and give up the pretense. 

So I almost think it&#039;s best to start from the game side and think about the pedagogy secondarily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. </p>
<p>One key thing about this from a game-design standpoint is <em>speed</em>. The pace of the game itself is what allows it to be played over and over again in a very short time frame, which I think is key to what allows it to be a learning tool. The problem with so many &#8220;serious&#8221; or &#8220;learning&#8221; games designed by educators to educate is that they miss out on some of these kinds of subtle but essential elements of design, and so often make a leaden, didactic, very unfun sort of game. At which point you might as well call it a test or a lecture and give up the pretense. </p>
<p>So I almost think it&#8217;s best to start from the game side and think about the pedagogy secondarily.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the game could be combined with another game or resource that provides more information about places, puts them in historical and political context as well as geographical.  Now you&#039;ve given me something to do over break. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the game could be combined with another game or resource that provides more information about places, puts them in historical and political context as well as geographical.  Now you&#8217;ve given me something to do over break. <img src='http://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Burke</title>
		<link>http://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/2007/12/20/traveller-iq-challenge-and-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-4723</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 01:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, when I don&#039;t know it, I often guess wrong about whether it&#039;s Morocco or Ethiopia. A lot of Amharic place names &quot;sound&quot; a particular way to me, so sometimes I guess right, but sometimes not. Sudan also messes stuff up for me in a few cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, when I don&#8217;t know it, I often guess wrong about whether it&#8217;s Morocco or Ethiopia. A lot of Amharic place names &#8220;sound&#8221; a particular way to me, so sometimes I guess right, but sometimes not. Sudan also messes stuff up for me in a few cases.</p>
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		<title>By: Random African</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random African</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>North Africa is really a challenge. For one, it&#039;s harder to guess where an unkown place could be from the sound and the spelling of a name. And then there&#039;s the fact that only Morrocco doesn&#039;t have a capital that overshadows the rest of the country. That was also an issue with anything Ethiopia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>North Africa is really a challenge. For one, it&#8217;s harder to guess where an unkown place could be from the sound and the spelling of a name. And then there&#8217;s the fact that only Morrocco doesn&#8217;t have a capital that overshadows the rest of the country. That was also an issue with anything Ethiopia.</p>
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